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the obama administration did not know they had been asking for more security help. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security. by the way, at the time, we were told exactly, we said exactly what the intelligence community told us that they knew. that was the assessment. >> there was an assessment, but the state department did know from videos that requests had been made and were turned down. a state department official acknowledged testifying on capitol hill yesterday. there was a sharp disagreement over medicare. biden charged ryan's plan would raise out of pocket costs for seniors. >> use your common sense, who do you trust on this, a man who introduced a bill to raise it $6400 a year knowing it and passing it and romney saying he signed it or may in the present? >> ryan objected. >> that statistic was misleading. more importantly, this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on. try to scare people from voting for you. >> on this, biden is right. the congressional budget office said it would force most future seniors
the obama administration did not know they had been asking for more security help. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security. by the way, at the time, we were told exactly, we said exactly what the intelligence community told us that they knew. that was the assessment. >> there was an assessment, but the state department did know from videos that requests had been made and were turned down. a state department official acknowledged...
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he'll make the clear case that the obama administration has brought us from the worst economic crisis we've faced since the great depression as a result of failed policies of the past forward 31 straight months of job growth and that we need to continue to have president obama and he in office so that they can continue to get the economy turned around and create jobs and move forward rather than what paul ryan and mitt romney have proposed, which is to take us back to policies that crashed our economy, that -- here's the bottom line. american voters the next 26 days will have a choice and joe biden will make this case. do we want to go back to a window of time like those under president clinton when we had the longest sustained prosperity as a result of middle class focused economic policies or do we want policies like those during the bush era that focused on tax breaks for the wealthiest and almost no regulation. i think the choice is clear. >> 9 hours, 30 minutes, you and i whether be watching along with most americans. thank you so much for your time today. >> thank you. >>> it's
he'll make the clear case that the obama administration has brought us from the worst economic crisis we've faced since the great depression as a result of failed policies of the past forward 31 straight months of job growth and that we need to continue to have president obama and he in office so that they can continue to get the economy turned around and create jobs and move forward rather than what paul ryan and mitt romney have proposed, which is to take us back to policies that crashed our...
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so there's four years of failed administration policy for ryan to litigate against president obama and joe biden. so i think if the question is, is there material for examination tonight in kentucky, absolutely there is. and do those issues that you raise, are they likely to come up? absolutely. but what amie said is absolutely correct. you'll see the congressman articulate governor romney's positions on how to get the economy growing, how to jump start, you know, the economy and provide jobs, and be very focused on that. if the attacks come from the left and from biden all night on issues that are over the stern, they are looking backward. it doesn't seem to be synergistic with forward looking campaign. >> four years, backwards looking if that is what they do -- >> what's the plan for the future or medicare? >> fair enough. >> what's the plan for social security? the obama plan is to do nothing. >> there's something to be said about the fact people know what the president and vice president have been doing, there's more public attention on the oval office, the economy. in terms of pau
so there's four years of failed administration policy for ryan to litigate against president obama and joe biden. so i think if the question is, is there material for examination tonight in kentucky, absolutely there is. and do those issues that you raise, are they likely to come up? absolutely. but what amie said is absolutely correct. you'll see the congressman articulate governor romney's positions on how to get the economy growing, how to jump start, you know, the economy and provide jobs,...
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it's even important because the man at the top of the ticket has criticized the foreign policy of the obama administration but through all accounts and by all accounts has not given specifics on what his foreign policy. so beyond libya and any criticism, if you criticize you've got to -- >> some good points back by joeb. >> what is your plan? >> tense-filled moment. >> yes, chris. >> tamron, you hit it right on the head. vice president biden, what he's got to do is really hold congressman ryan's feet to the fire. he's got to make him answer the questions that they have not had to answer and they didn't answer in the first presidential debate. really put him on the defensive about it and don't let it go. you'll know how this debate is going within the first five, ten minutes in terms of how vice president biden comes out. >> all right. thank you very much. chris kofinis, mr. steele, someone said gene. i feel like the luckiest woman in the world. >> lucky guy. >> still ahead, governor romney's shifting stance on abortion. >> i think i've said time and again i'm a pro life candidate. i'll be a
it's even important because the man at the top of the ticket has criticized the foreign policy of the obama administration but through all accounts and by all accounts has not given specifics on what his foreign policy. so beyond libya and any criticism, if you criticize you've got to -- >> some good points back by joeb. >> what is your plan? >> tense-filled moment. >> yes, chris. >> tamron, you hit it right on the head. vice president biden, what he's got to do is...
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one of the big mistakes that the obama administration says, they didn't have enough of the private sector organization. the one way i would propose to deal with that is put in someone like larry fink. people will scream, oh, my god, wall street. someone who's actually been in the trenches hiring and firing. you need somebody who's done that. >> speaking of the trenches, when you redo this game can you make it a foreign policy so we can do risk and attack on the country. >> thank you very much. up next, if you've ever wanted to see steve kornacki in high school, just wait. [ chuckles ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ male announcer ] now you'll know when to stop. [ honk! ] the all-new nissan altima with easy fill tire alert. [ honk! ] it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ innovation that excites. and every day since, two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. we've worked hard to keep it. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help people and businesses who were affected, and to cover cleanup costs. today, t
one of the big mistakes that the obama administration says, they didn't have enough of the private sector organization. the one way i would propose to deal with that is put in someone like larry fink. people will scream, oh, my god, wall street. someone who's actually been in the trenches hiring and firing. you need somebody who's done that. >> speaking of the trenches, when you redo this game can you make it a foreign policy so we can do risk and attack on the country. >> thank you...
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administration's toughest critics. the last week before the vice presidential debate. >>> plus capital control, the future of the senate could come down to just a handful of races, but, boy, are they different from state to state. today an exclusive, but the two guys driving their party's paths to power. good morning from washington, it's wednesday, october 1010/10/2012. >> last night senior state department officials gave their fullest account yet on the athat killed ambassador chris stevens. the most important take away, there were no protests in front of the consulate before the attacks ever. directly contradicting the story given by susan rice three weeks ago. here's the timeline as we know it from the state department. at 8:30 p.m. local, the streets are calm as ambassador stevens says good night to a viz siing turkish diplomat. answer agent sees a large number of men flowing into the compound and immediately puts out on alarm. a security act hustles the ambassador and others to a bunker inside the residence. the
administration's toughest critics. the last week before the vice presidential debate. >>> plus capital control, the future of the senate could come down to just a handful of races, but, boy, are they different from state to state. today an exclusive, but the two guys driving their party's paths to power. good morning from washington, it's wednesday, october 1010/10/2012. >> last night senior state department officials gave their fullest account yet on the athat killed ambassador...
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administration. >> so debate the top guys? >> debate the top guys. don't spend all of your time trying to make paul ryan look bad. >> the advantage is to make the top guy look good. joe biden will be selling president obama and ryan will be selling romney. >> here is the reaction earlier today. >> right now the romney campaign is running away from their positions, like unwanted step children but we're going to hold them to them and explain to the country exactly what the differences are here because the choice is very stark. >> well, what do you think they will do, chuck? do you say there's a connection between what he just said and what will happen tonight? >> yes. look, the idea that somehow that the chicago wasn't involved with this and suddenly came through, they've always been involved. this is one big team here, obama/biden. that seems silly to me. overreported about was axelrod involved. yes, that is what they are trying to do. build a bigger contrast. that is biden's job tonight, is to try to
administration. >> so debate the top guys? >> debate the top guys. don't spend all of your time trying to make paul ryan look bad. >> the advantage is to make the top guy look good. joe biden will be selling president obama and ryan will be selling romney. >> here is the reaction earlier today. >> right now the romney campaign is running away from their positions, like unwanted step children but we're going to hold them to them and explain to the country exactly...
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congressman ryan uttered the same words that the obama administration has been weak and libya and syria have been mishandled. here's congressman ryan fakes off on one of the deans of foreign policy for this administration. >> i think a tremendous disadvantage for congressman ryan, as it will be for governor romney when he faces off against the president on foreign affairs. i think joe biden will make sure they don't stray from the truth. in yesterday's speech somewhat unbelievably to me after all the contention about misstatements, governor romney made two significant misstatements again shows a disregard for the facts. one he said, tamron, there was no discussion of terrorism in the 2008 debates. we saw last night on msnbc they played the tape. >> there's tape to prove he wasn't accurate. >> 40 mentions of terrorism in that debate, and he said president obama hasn't signed a single free-trade agreement, when, in fact, he signed three. joe biden won't let him get away with it. going back to domestic policy for a section, congressman ryan said we don't have enough time to make the math a
congressman ryan uttered the same words that the obama administration has been weak and libya and syria have been mishandled. here's congressman ryan fakes off on one of the deans of foreign policy for this administration. >> i think a tremendous disadvantage for congressman ryan, as it will be for governor romney when he faces off against the president on foreign affairs. i think joe biden will make sure they don't stray from the truth. in yesterday's speech somewhat unbelievably to me...
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paul ryan came out with a harsh attack on the obama administration's handling of that. in fact, their overall foreign policy. let's watch. >> this benghazi issue would be a tragedy in and of itself, but unfortunately, it's indicative of a broader problem. that's what we are watching on our tv screens, the unraveling of the obama foreign policy, which is making them more chaotic and us less safe. >> here's the comeback. let's listen. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarky. this lecture on embassy security, the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for, number one. so much for the embassy security piece. number two, governor romney, before he knew the facts, before he even knew our ambassador was killed, was out making a political statement which was panned by the media around the world. and this talk about this weakness, i don't understand what my friend's talking about here. this is a president who's gone out and done everything he has said he was going to do. >> well, michael steele and eugene robinson, both
paul ryan came out with a harsh attack on the obama administration's handling of that. in fact, their overall foreign policy. let's watch. >> this benghazi issue would be a tragedy in and of itself, but unfortunately, it's indicative of a broader problem. that's what we are watching on our tv screens, the unraveling of the obama foreign policy, which is making them more chaotic and us less safe. >> here's the comeback. let's listen. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of...
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is that the great problem of a four-year administration that warrant the criticism that the obama administration is weak and failed? >> i don't think so it is. the argument that the republicans put forward is a very, very weak one. the headline out of the speech today, the headline tomorrow is syria. that's the only place where there's a little bit of daylight -- substandard. >> andrea mitchell made the poir point we don't know what's happening to help the rebels. governor romney would be more up front with giving them weapons and helping and assisting the rebels. we don't know what's going on. >> there's enough reporting to suggest that isn't taking place. words do matter. if you have a presidential candidate saying up front i will arm these people, that has consequences. some of those are very dangerous consequences, and so perhaps by promising it this early without be fully apprised of all the facts, you could argue that's a danger thing to do. that's the the only place where he has real difference with the obama foreign policy. >> jonathan, do you despite what bobby just said? the syria issu
is that the great problem of a four-year administration that warrant the criticism that the obama administration is weak and failed? >> i don't think so it is. the argument that the republicans put forward is a very, very weak one. the headline out of the speech today, the headline tomorrow is syria. that's the only place where there's a little bit of daylight -- substandard. >> andrea mitchell made the poir point we don't know what's happening to help the rebels. governor romney...
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the obama administration's handling of the incident has been called into question after it was revealed that there had not been a protest outside the consulate directly contradicting accounts provided by ambassador susan rice in the days following the attack based on the information she had at the time. >>> now to business, standard & poors lowered the credit rating on spain. now just barely above the level of junk status. the agency also warned of more potential cuts ahead if the country fails to take the proper steps to slow its economic slide. let's get more on the story now from karen cho. good morning. >> good morning. the folk us is back on spain's funding costs and ability to tap the market. we saw the downgrade above negative market. some of the losses have been trimmed. spain is still tracking low. it was down about 1%. now off about .1%. the reason why you're seeing such a recovery so quickly is because this is just closing the gap between s & p's rating and moody's rating. moody's is sitting at the equivalent of a-3. quet the question is if they cut spain to junk status. we d
the obama administration's handling of the incident has been called into question after it was revealed that there had not been a protest outside the consulate directly contradicting accounts provided by ambassador susan rice in the days following the attack based on the information she had at the time. >>> now to business, standard & poors lowered the credit rating on spain. now just barely above the level of junk status. the agency also warned of more potential cuts ahead if the...
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the obama administration under fire for contradictions in the aftermath and questions about who knew what and when. the topic dominated much of thursday night's vice-presidential debate and it's continuing today. romney camp continuing push hard on it. >> when the prp vice president the united states directly contradicts the testimony, sworn testimony of state department officials, american citizens have a right to know just what's going on. and we're going to find out. >> that was governor romney yesterday in richmond, virginia. how much of an impact will this issue have on the president's standing with regard to foreign policy. he's a surrogate for the obama cam paper. do appreciate you spending part of your afternoon with us, sir. >> great being back on here, buddy. >> a lot of con nutrition, a lot of second-guessing about what happened in benghazi. here's what republican congressman darrell issa had to say earlier. take a listen. >> they repeatedly warned washington officials about dangerous situation in libya. instead of, however, moving swiftly to respond to these concerns, was
the obama administration under fire for contradictions in the aftermath and questions about who knew what and when. the topic dominated much of thursday night's vice-presidential debate and it's continuing today. romney camp continuing push hard on it. >> when the prp vice president the united states directly contradicts the testimony, sworn testimony of state department officials, american citizens have a right to know just what's going on. and we're going to find out. >> that was...
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and the obama administration has lowered taxes consistently. it's brought in less revenue. >> let's look at the question about the dow jones average. it's fascinating. this president has been seen as being hostile to wall street. wall street believes that wall street has been treated badly. you look at these numbers, and you have to ask that bill clinton question, are you going to believe me or your liein' eyes? >> the fact is that the dow did take a small dump right before obama became president. >> that's one way to put it. >> so he is a beneficiary of this massive rise. >> i now can see it. >> we've got to introduce to you bill karins, but go ahead. >> the dow was way, way down when obama took office. and it has basically doubled during his tenure. the fact is a lot of americans were not invested in it. a lot of americans pulled their money out of their mutual funds. they're either sitting on the sidelines or sitting in bonds. >> mark halhalperin, i'm sure wl hear a lot of this tonight. the question, are you better off now than you were four
and the obama administration has lowered taxes consistently. it's brought in less revenue. >> let's look at the question about the dow jones average. it's fascinating. this president has been seen as being hostile to wall street. wall street believes that wall street has been treated badly. you look at these numbers, and you have to ask that bill clinton question, are you going to believe me or your liein' eyes? >> the fact is that the dow did take a small dump right before obama...
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i will tell you that over two administrations, the bush administration and obama administration, we always knew that u.s. consulates and embassies are absolutely prime targets for terrorist attacks. we've seen this before in the bush administration, we had attacks in the consulate in karachi and pakistan in saudi arabia, in jeddah, in syria, and elsewhere throughout the region. so this is not entirely new. we know the threat is there. i think what we've seen in libya is, obviously a government which still had a real challenge in using its own forces to protect the limited u.s. presence and very legitimate questions now about the degree of security that was there at the embassy. from what i understand, there still was no long specific actual intelligence about this attack, but it's quite clear there was a threat in libya generally, a specific threat that we'd seen over the previous couple months in benghazi, and now obviously the congress and the executive branch have to look hard and see should that security have been heightened, but as you noted, the diplomatic security within the state d
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didn't do, which is to defend the obama administration's policies from the past four years. i also think you're going to vice president biden go after ryan and romney for having really become a little more moderate in recent days. we're getting a preview of that and the xr and t and the campaign trail. we heard president obama preview that a little bit in his comments when he said that mitt romney has been running for the past year as someone who is extremely conservative and now he's trying to convince you, and i quote, that was extremely kidding. of course, his challenge is really tonight not to make one of those gaffes he has been called out for in the past and, of course, he's facing off against someone who is regarded as a formidable challenger. paul ryan is somebody who is steeped in the details. someone who is no stranger to having to debate things like budget proposals and that sort of thing. so i think people are prepared for this to be a pretty close debate. the latest pew poll had 40% of people saying that they expected paul ryan to win, 34% expecting biden to win
didn't do, which is to defend the obama administration's policies from the past four years. i also think you're going to vice president biden go after ryan and romney for having really become a little more moderate in recent days. we're getting a preview of that and the xr and t and the campaign trail. we heard president obama preview that a little bit in his comments when he said that mitt romney has been running for the past year as someone who is extremely conservative and now he's trying to...
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. >> you think the vice president did an effective job talking about the obama administration's records on women's rights? i mean, do you think the president said what the women in this country wanted to hear? >> i do, ed. i think that i really so respect joe biden for being very honest and sincere about his own personal beliefs and for respecting and honoring the rights of women to have legal access to necessary abortion care and birth control. that said, may i just say that i really wish that women's issues would come up more in these debates. frankly, obama's positions and biden's positions are so good for women, especially when you compare them to how bad the romney/ryan positions are. i would really love to see that coming out more in the debates. >> well, we'll see if the polls swing in the gender gap, again, as they had tightened in recent weeks. terry o'neill, thanks for joining us on "the ed show." appreciate it. >>> romney and ryan twisted themselves into knots over taxes and showed up again last night big time. david cay johnston will join us to tell us what it's all about. >
. >> you think the vice president did an effective job talking about the obama administration's records on women's rights? i mean, do you think the president said what the women in this country wanted to hear? >> i do, ed. i think that i really so respect joe biden for being very honest and sincere about his own personal beliefs and for respecting and honoring the rights of women to have legal access to necessary abortion care and birth control. that said, may i just say that i...
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presidential candidate mitt romney said that the obama administration's policies had left the middle east a more dangerous place than it was four years ago. i can't wait to ask you about that, richard. >> fair enough. >> that speech was fascinating. >> new polls were taken after the debate. what did they show? >> i will get to it as soon as you zip it. >> whoa. >> the race is tightening with four weeks to go, a new pew research center survey shows romney leading obama 49% to 45% in a national head-to-head match-up among likely voters. those most committed to participating in the november election. there is good news for the romney campaign in michigan, a state where president obama was leading by ten points last month according to the detroit free press. after the debate, the same poll has the president's lead down to three points, well within the margin of error. perhaps the biggest gain for the romney campaign comes from that pew survey, which shows the republican candidate has made huge gains with women voters now tied with the president 47% to 47%. just a month ago, the president
presidential candidate mitt romney said that the obama administration's policies had left the middle east a more dangerous place than it was four years ago. i can't wait to ask you about that, richard. >> fair enough. >> that speech was fascinating. >> new polls were taken after the debate. what did they show? >> i will get to it as soon as you zip it. >> whoa. >> the race is tightening with four weeks to go, a new pew research center survey shows romney...
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it's another area obama and the administration had something positive to say. they had a weird conversation about schools where mitt romney said i like great schools. >> great teachers. >> yeah. i would add to that. that's very important. labels matter. i'm not sure if there's an official name but you are talking the general problem, the mismatch between what passes as a basic education and a middle class existence. it's a huge problem. maybe 30 or 40 years ago, it was a euphemism. now it's a problem. the television show, "breaking bad." >> no one talked about "breaking bad." >> then they could have talked about the "jeffersons." we have a group of people going to high school and coming out unemployab unemployable. it's a huge problem for the nation. it's no longer anything local. i would like that talked about. it's about education and job preparation. community college is huge and barack obama said a little something about it. it was easy to miss it. i missed that in this debate. anthropologists would have been shocked it was so much about taxes. taxes are in
it's another area obama and the administration had something positive to say. they had a weird conversation about schools where mitt romney said i like great schools. >> great teachers. >> yeah. i would add to that. that's very important. labels matter. i'm not sure if there's an official name but you are talking the general problem, the mismatch between what passes as a basic education and a middle class existence. it's a huge problem. maybe 30 or 40 years ago, it was a euphemism....
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i would instead repeal obama care and replace obama care with real reforms to bring down the cost of health care and save people money. the president indicated that you're going to see higher taxes under his administration. you already have under obama care. but that will continue. actually the vice president brought out the truth by saying he's going to add about a trillion dollars in taxes and taxes by the way, do not create jobs. raising taxes on people make it harder for enterprises to grow and hire people. i will not raise taxes on small business. i'll not raise taxes on business. i'll not raise taxes on middle-income people, i won't raise taxes at all on the american people. it's a very different approach. when the president was running as a candidate four years ago he looked at the deficits under president bush and found them to be excessive and un-american. and they're about half as large as the ones he's put in place over the last four years. he said he was going to cut the deficit in half. he's doubled it. there's no question if he were to be re-elected we would see trillio
i would instead repeal obama care and replace obama care with real reforms to bring down the cost of health care and save people money. the president indicated that you're going to see higher taxes under his administration. you already have under obama care. but that will continue. actually the vice president brought out the truth by saying he's going to add about a trillion dollars in taxes and taxes by the way, do not create jobs. raising taxes on people make it harder for enterprises to grow...
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consulate in benghazi continue to pile up on the obama administration after a tense house hearing thursday. the senate will now begin their own investigation into the attack. joining me now is the former state department officer and former deputy director of the national security network. joel, glad to have you here. vice president biden criticized for saying he did not know u.s. officials in benghazi had even asked for more support. today, delaware attorney general beau biden coming to his father's defense. >> he was speaking for himself and the president, as you heard jay carney tell you in the briefing room the other day. >> do you think the average voters understands the difference between the state department knowing about those requests and the white house knowing? >> i think the average voter will understand this as this is communicated publicly, and it needs to be communicated. what can't happen is that there becomes a sense that this went to the president's desk. the president does not approve every request for funding for security at our consulates and our embassies overseas. cer
consulate in benghazi continue to pile up on the obama administration after a tense house hearing thursday. the senate will now begin their own investigation into the attack. joining me now is the former state department officer and former deputy director of the national security network. joel, glad to have you here. vice president biden criticized for saying he did not know u.s. officials in benghazi had even asked for more support. today, delaware attorney general beau biden coming to his...
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administration and for the re-election, that they have a very different view of the role of government in creating the middle class, that we did it once before in the '30s, '40s, '50s, and '60s and we can do it again and the middle class just needs a fair shot. i felt that was the most heartfelt and emotional portions of his presentation, and i think that they're very effective. people are talking about his laughter, about you when you show those couple moments and you see his passion talking to people directly, i think it's so effective and devastating. paul ryan looks like an accountant whose numbers don't add up. >> michael, final opportunity for you, do you think mr. biden has stole the limited momentum that romney appeared to have last week? >> well, he at least changed the conversation. we're no longer talking about how barack obama is a terrible debater and may have given away the election a week ago which is good for barack obama. i don't know if this debate will move polls, it will probably stop a slide that was already slowing and all that will matter from here on on is the p
administration and for the re-election, that they have a very different view of the role of government in creating the middle class, that we did it once before in the '30s, '40s, '50s, and '60s and we can do it again and the middle class just needs a fair shot. i felt that was the most heartfelt and emotional portions of his presentation, and i think that they're very effective. people are talking about his laughter, about you when you show those couple moments and you see his passion talking...
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i think he had the vice president on the defensive on the issue of libya and the obama administration actions with regards to libya. i think it was a good debate. >> except you know the clip that we played there about the stimulus? that was a tough one, right? joe? >> well, of course i mean vice president biden is very, very good on his feet, very quick on his feet. i think it was a very strong performance on his part. i think paul ryan did a great job also. but vice president biden is very strong. >> karen, let's talk about all that smiling and interrupting. your unvarnished take. do you wish the vice president had backed off even a little? because then we wouldn't even be talking about his style. >> the only reason we're talking about his style is because the republicans can't seem to take a punch. last week when our guy didn't do so well we took hit. we admitted it and we moved on. this week when it was a commanding performance for romney, all of a sudden joe biden is being rude. frankly, there were so many moments where biden could have further corrected paul on a marathon runner
i think he had the vice president on the defensive on the issue of libya and the obama administration actions with regards to libya. i think it was a good debate. >> except you know the clip that we played there about the stimulus? that was a tough one, right? joe? >> well, of course i mean vice president biden is very, very good on his feet, very quick on his feet. i think it was a very strong performance on his part. i think paul ryan did a great job also. but vice president biden...
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. >> reporter: four years ago in the eastern part of the state where vinegar barbecue rules, obama won. prior too that it was bush territory. >> we clearly need a new direction. the current administration doesn't have what it takes to get us where we need to get. >> this state is neither blue or red in part because of transplant like doug who moved here from new york. >> you're asking about the analogy with the barbecue whether it's vinegar-based or tomato-based. the thing i notice here is people are kind of steeped in the way they've always done it. very traditional. >> but even tradition can be upended. you're. >> 74. >> caller: you're black. >> yes. >> reporter: you saw the first black president electnd and you're saying i'm not sure. >> reporter: you're not sure. >> no. >> reporter: so there are no stereotypes. >> no. >> reporter: here, the politics are mostly red, just like the sauce. >> well, they know the best barbecue and the best politics. this is where you find it right here in lexington, north carolina. >> i think the taxes are going to con usually go higher. and it's going
. >> reporter: four years ago in the eastern part of the state where vinegar barbecue rules, obama won. prior too that it was bush territory. >> we clearly need a new direction. the current administration doesn't have what it takes to get us where we need to get. >> this state is neither blue or red in part because of transplant like doug who moved here from new york. >> you're asking about the analogy with the barbecue whether it's vinegar-based or tomato-based. the...
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. >> four years ago in the eastern part of the state where vinegar barbecue rules, obama won. prior to that this was bush territory. >> we clearly need a new direction. the current administration doesn't have what it takes. >> the state is neither blue or red in part because of transplants like doug who moved here from new york. >> you're asking about the analogy with the barbecue, whether it's vinegar based or the tomato based, the thing i notice here is people are steeped in the way they've always done it. very -- very traditional. zbr but tradition can be upended. >> you're 70 -- >> 74. >> yes. >> you're black. you saw the first black president elected. yet you're sitting here saying i'm not sure. >> i'm not sure. but head west to lexington. the politics in this part of the state is mostly red. just like the sauce. >> they know the best politics. this is where to find it here in lexington, north carolina. it's going to make it harder to do what --? >> to survive. last g around president obama won north carolina by 14,000 votes. >> who are you voting for? >> obama. >> who di
. >> four years ago in the eastern part of the state where vinegar barbecue rules, obama won. prior to that this was bush territory. >> we clearly need a new direction. the current administration doesn't have what it takes. >> the state is neither blue or red in part because of transplants like doug who moved here from new york. >> you're asking about the analogy with the barbecue, whether it's vinegar based or the tomato based, the thing i notice here is people are...